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like dana said, there's so much more choice. you could really browse ahead of time online and then because of that stores may not actually see the foot traffic and you may not get those sales. consumers have gotten a lot smarter and they know if they wait, they'll probably get bigger sales towards the end of the season when the retailers get a little desperate. >> dana, just in a word, do you see the risk there for holiday? >> it is a risk for holiday right now. typically back to school always a little bit of a precursor and holiday this year, it's shorter. it's 26 days versus 32 days. so it definitely puts up the cautious flag for holiday 2013. >> all right. dana and courtney, thanks very much for some more perspective. speaking of retail tune into "the closing bell" tomorrow for an exclusive interview is walmart ceo mike duke. it all starts at 3:00 p.m. eastern. >>> u.p.s. says it will cut insurance for 15,000 spouses because of the president's new health care law. are other companies likely to follow suit? we'll talk about th
like dana said, there's so much more choice. you could really browse ahead of time online and then because of that stores may not actually see the foot traffic and you may not get those sales. consumers have gotten a lot smarter and they know if they wait, they'll probably get bigger sales towards the end of the season when the retailers get a little desperate. >> dana, just in a word, do you see the risk there for holiday? >> it is a risk for holiday right now. typically back to...
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joining me now are dana mill bangs and maria teresa kumar. thank you for being here. >> it's absurd, because everybody knows he was in indonesia learning to become a muslim during that time. many thought that saddam -- and if you're listening to fox news every night, you may not hear that exactly, about you you're led in that direction, and i think that's part of the echo chamber we are hearing now. if people are not particularly informed, there's no telling what they might actually come up with, but this one is delicious. >> it seems like this is really telling, when you have people that can have a reasonable portion of the public in a given state, actually believe one who wasn't even in offense may have been responsible for something, this is a serious statement. >> this is absolutely part of the larger agenda of revisionist history that the republican party is doing it, in absence of providing real solutions to the country as problems. the more they can blame president obama, whether or because you're actually not recuperating because of s
joining me now are dana mill bangs and maria teresa kumar. thank you for being here. >> it's absurd, because everybody knows he was in indonesia learning to become a muslim during that time. many thought that saddam -- and if you're listening to fox news every night, you may not hear that exactly, about you you're led in that direction, and i think that's part of the echo chamber we are hearing now. if people are not particularly informed, there's no telling what they might actually come...
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dana good to see you. twitter chatter increasing as ibm stock falls. shares hit a 52 week earlier today, down 15 percent. paul? >> we're negative on ibm. the stock was a former dow leader. there are issues surrounding the company's cloud business and cheaper competitors coming in. it's a name we want to avoid here and look for other opportunities in the cloud space. >> next up book seller barnes and noble reporting a bigger quarterly loss than expected on the back of disappointing nook sales. chairman and ceo saying he suspended -- >> i don't love this name. you think of how challenged the brooks and mortar business is. everything was bad here. they don't have a hunger games, a 50 shades of gray this year but how many times do you have a 50 shades of gray. >> not often enough apparently. >> why don't you tell us, the go of you. we're off air, go ahead. >> i don't like what i see. >> i have never read it. i have my own imagination, thank you. last up lululemon lighting up the twitter sphere the stock initially selling off and popping back up. grasso you
dana good to see you. twitter chatter increasing as ibm stock falls. shares hit a 52 week earlier today, down 15 percent. paul? >> we're negative on ibm. the stock was a former dow leader. there are issues surrounding the company's cloud business and cheaper competitors coming in. it's a name we want to avoid here and look for other opportunities in the cloud space. >> next up book seller barnes and noble reporting a bigger quarterly loss than expected on the back of disappointing...
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dana, where does the stock go from here? >> overall it needs to have results. it needs to have same-store sales. it's getting closer to flat than the negative 12% and they're going up against a negative 26% to negative 32% through the back half of the year. >> is this a positive development? is this a negative development? do you say there was going to be an overhang on the stock and the good news is they just cleared that overhang out in one fell swoop? or do you say to yourself, if he's willing to take a loss at this point, that's bad news for everybody? >> i think your first scenario's more likely. i think it was disruptive in terms of what was going on. you have to be able to get the company to some sort of level of stabilization. it was challenging to do that with the boardroom fights happening on main street. and now the holiday season is coming, the most important time of the year for the company. they're trying to get the home department fixed and focus and concentration is the key. >> courtney, the view inside jcpenney, they're happy to see mr. ackman
dana, where does the stock go from here? >> overall it needs to have results. it needs to have same-store sales. it's getting closer to flat than the negative 12% and they're going up against a negative 26% to negative 32% through the back half of the year. >> is this a positive development? is this a negative development? do you say there was going to be an overhang on the stock and the good news is they just cleared that overhang out in one fell swoop? or do you say to yourself,...
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we'll get you the results from the retail giant and analysis from dana tellsy. plus, we'll tell you what to expect when cisco reports after the well. who is winning the ral? >> i won. i won the money. i won the money. did you hear mow? i say i won. it's here, right here. >> we'll continue our what's work series with stock picks from a top rated strategist and portfolio manager. >> and breaking economic data. >> a bunch of my economists are trying to bore me to death. >> the nerd. >> we'll get the producer price index for july at 8:30 a.m. eastern. >> the third hour of "squawk box" begins right now. >> welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc, first in business worldwide. i'm andrew ross sorkin along with becky quick. steve liesman with us and joe kernin on vacation and our guest host gives us perspective, dan colorusso. >> macy's out with earnings 72 cents a share and the street was looking for 78 cents and the comments from the company that acknowledged that this was a soft disappointment or soft -- softer than expected just in terms of that performance. they
we'll get you the results from the retail giant and analysis from dana tellsy. plus, we'll tell you what to expect when cisco reports after the well. who is winning the ral? >> i won. i won the money. i won the money. did you hear mow? i say i won. it's here, right here. >> we'll continue our what's work series with stock picks from a top rated strategist and portfolio manager. >> and breaking economic data. >> a bunch of my economists are trying to bore me to death....
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why, dana, yes, i know an the icecaps all right. i'm very surprised that you know about the icecaps melting and retrieving. and i said, i said, arnold, i'm talking about the icecaps on mars. oh. bam. he's gone. >> that was republican congressman dana rohrbacker of california in a speech that serves as a perfect artifact of the biggest obstacle of the u.s. getting climate policy right. at the base of one of our two main parties. 100% committed to denying that climate change is even a thing that requires policy. seriously, that is the number one barrier to get anything done on climate in this country because when it comes down to it, let me tell you something. even the fossil fuel companies, as powerful and destructive as they are, could probably in the end just be paid off, fought off, for the right price. but the fear of a tea party primary challenge is endemic in republican party right now. and it's making meaningful climate policy, among other things, completely unachievable in washington. so what they're seeing in this room at th
why, dana, yes, i know an the icecaps all right. i'm very surprised that you know about the icecaps melting and retrieving. and i said, i said, arnold, i'm talking about the icecaps on mars. oh. bam. he's gone. >> that was republican congressman dana rohrbacker of california in a speech that serves as a perfect artifact of the biggest obstacle of the u.s. getting climate policy right. at the base of one of our two main parties. 100% committed to denying that climate change is even a thing...
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eugene robinson, dana milbank. all these type. and i said you are probably the most conservative or fair-minded person at the entire "new york times." that's what i said. >> thank you for that. >> but it was as far left as you are, you are probably the most reasonable person, which is why the huffington post probably doesn't like you. >> i don't know where to go with that. >> i have two points who read the allyn sloan piece. >> he better declare. >> but his point was -- >> was it the internet came from the 19th -- >> he was making a very left argument that the internet was a product of the government and, therefore, jeff bezos should be -- >> you guys lost your -- even robert schiller admits that invest investment in infrastructure comes from entrepreneurs. even bono knows it now. >> bono. >> bono? who is bono? >> oh, he's -- >> can i give one irony of that allyn sloan's piece in "fortune." "the washington post" pays to republish that piece in "the washington post." so we'll see how long that lasts. >> jennifer rubin started follo
eugene robinson, dana milbank. all these type. and i said you are probably the most conservative or fair-minded person at the entire "new york times." that's what i said. >> thank you for that. >> but it was as far left as you are, you are probably the most reasonable person, which is why the huffington post probably doesn't like you. >> i don't know where to go with that. >> i have two points who read the allyn sloan piece. >> he better declare. >>...
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i'd like to see what dana tellsy has to say. it's been im pefr yus to tapes. gap just came out with comps that were disappointing but the stock is not selling after in the after market. that will be worth watching. the best way to play retail in some ways protect yourself and it's panned out is to be long master card or visa. regardless of what you think of the consumer the world is changing to benefit them. >> mike khouw you're looking at express and l brands formerly limited brands which owns victoria's secret and bath and body works. that stock hit a 52-week high and sold off today. >> express got hit and actually some people were pressing their bearish bets. we saw more put buying than anything else. araeo pos stall there was call buying in that name. what's interesting to me in these environments it seems like using options is a good way to make these puts. the premiums are so low. we continue to see the market pretty strong, that keeps the options premiums low and people are taking advantage of it. >> we have breaking news. let's go to headquarters for t
i'd like to see what dana tellsy has to say. it's been im pefr yus to tapes. gap just came out with comps that were disappointing but the stock is not selling after in the after market. that will be worth watching. the best way to play retail in some ways protect yourself and it's panned out is to be long master card or visa. regardless of what you think of the consumer the world is changing to benefit them. >> mike khouw you're looking at express and l brands formerly limited brands...
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they would replace long time directors dana coat and alan footer. >>> the financial times reports jpmorgan has hired a new york law firm to investigate its hong kong hiring practices. the firm will respond to questions from the s.e.c. about whether the bank hired children of key chinese officials to help it win underwriting business. >>> a quick check of jpmorgan shares in frankfurt, up by .5%. >>> u.s. attorney general eric holder says the justice department is close to making decisions on several probes involving big financial firms. holder tells the wall street journal he plans to announce new cases stemming from the financial crisis in the coming months. holder says, quote, anybody who is inflicted damage on our financial market should not be out of the belief they're out of the woods because of the passage of time. the obama administration has been criticized for not bringing criminal charges against any top executives over the 2008 market meltdown. >>> deliveries of aluminum to warehouses run by big banks and trading firms have reportedly plunged this summer. the wall street journal
they would replace long time directors dana coat and alan footer. >>> the financial times reports jpmorgan has hired a new york law firm to investigate its hong kong hiring practices. the firm will respond to questions from the s.e.c. about whether the bank hired children of key chinese officials to help it win underwriting business. >>> a quick check of jpmorgan shares in frankfurt, up by .5%. >>> u.s. attorney general eric holder says the justice department is close...
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>> you know, off the top of my head, it's dana's company. i don't have the numbers. the expectation were low there, it's a decent result, relatively speaking. i think there is hopefulness j.c. penney will turn it around. i think on the hard line side is where best boy had terrific numbers. home depot had strong numbers. we will hear from dick's sporting gods later. >> jc penney $2.66 billion for those revenues. joe, when you think about home depot and the consumer and a rising mortgage rate environment, are you seeing the disposable income of some of these consumers actually getting hit before we get to the end of the year? and is that going to affect tear abilities to improve their homes? >> no, you know, i think the wealth effect is actually helping to drive sales. if you think about the installed base of homeowners are mainly set. you know the new homes or the turnover of homes is a pretty small turnover of the market. probably almost 85, 90% of home debow sales come from people saying put. if they feel better about the value of their home or the jobs situation, t
>> you know, off the top of my head, it's dana's company. i don't have the numbers. the expectation were low there, it's a decent result, relatively speaking. i think there is hopefulness j.c. penney will turn it around. i think on the hard line side is where best boy had terrific numbers. home depot had strong numbers. we will hear from dick's sporting gods later. >> jc penney $2.66 billion for those revenues. joe, when you think about home depot and the consumer and a rising...
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dana brunetti joins us here at post 9. it's a treat for me because this show is a personal obsession of mine. it's good to have you, dana. >> thanks for having at the. >> how much did the emmy's change the game? >> it made history. it's the first time a show like that has ever been nominated for an emmy. when we set it up at netflix, we sort of assumed we wouldn't be eligible, but the industry came around as we went into production. it's a big game changer as far as being nominated and recognized by the industry as that's a viable means for quality content to get to an audience. >> can you talk about the original pitch meetings? because netflix hadn't done anything like this before and even they said what a massive bet this was for them. there were worries about the distribution models, worries about letting all the episodes float at once, losing that sort of weight, that drip, drip, drip that dramas have lived off for decades. >> as far as releasing them ought al once, we've seen a lot of the drips. a lot of people are st
dana brunetti joins us here at post 9. it's a treat for me because this show is a personal obsession of mine. it's good to have you, dana. >> thanks for having at the. >> how much did the emmy's change the game? >> it made history. it's the first time a show like that has ever been nominated for an emmy. when we set it up at netflix, we sort of assumed we wouldn't be eligible, but the industry came around as we went into production. it's a big game changer as far as being...
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>> that is a big part of -- dana rohrabacher was just speaking a few days ago where he basically tipped his hand in this. it's basically if the planet is warming then we'll need government intervention. because we don't like government intervention, ergo the planet goes on warming. a reverse engineered logic that gets them to pose it. >> polls show it's a pressing issue for americans, an issue you examine in the documentary. let's take a look at your work. >> according to a recent gallup poll only one-third of americans are greatly worried about climate change. what can possibly explain this apathy when 99.8% of scientific study support the existence of human-caused global warming? well, some of the credit goes to the so called experts who peddle dubious science to counter any government attaempt to tack it will issue, the deniers. >> if you do nothing about this at all, for the whole of the next 23 years, the worst that will happen, using the u.n.'s own estimates, is a one fahrenheit degree warming, which will be largely harmless and beneficial. >> i think it's really important for peo
>> that is a big part of -- dana rohrabacher was just speaking a few days ago where he basically tipped his hand in this. it's basically if the planet is warming then we'll need government intervention. because we don't like government intervention, ergo the planet goes on warming. a reverse engineered logic that gets them to pose it. >> polls show it's a pressing issue for americans, an issue you examine in the documentary. let's take a look at your work. >> according to a...
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tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 >>> dana corporation moving higher at this point, the autoparts-makers saying it will buy back 2 million in company stock. last month the company lowered its sales forecast for the year. it is, however, up some 40% so far in 2013, and 15%, as you see there, over the past 12 months. sue? >> ty, the markets are a little bit lower right now with the dow jones industrial average off 34. the s&p off 4.5 but the nasdaq is positive by 4 points. the gold market has had a big day on trading session, up 22 at 1334.20 on the trading session. an interest rates were 2.59% on the ten-year, but the 0-year everybody is watching because we have a big selloff in the 30-year and that's moved the interest rate higher. ty? >> that will do it for "power lunch." >> "street signs" begins now. >> indeed "street signs" does begin right now. hello, everybody. welcome to the show. we're preventing the demise of a canadian national icon. blackberry looking into every single option, from hot to not. have apple stores become boring, and when does that say about the stock in the bears starting t
tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 >>> dana corporation moving higher at this point, the autoparts-makers saying it will buy back 2 million in company stock. last month the company lowered its sales forecast for the year. it is, however, up some 40% so far in 2013, and 15%, as you see there, over the past 12 months. sue? >> ty, the markets are a little bit lower right now with the dow jones industrial average off 34. the s&p off 4.5 but the nasdaq is positive by 4 points. the gold market...
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olympic swimmer diana -- dana boemer will call for equal access to meal programs in the oakland u fid school district. they want congress to incorporate the regional cost of living to determine the family's eligibility when they apply for free or reduced meals. research shows children who go hungry are more likely to struggle in the classroom and they also have more tardiness and other problems. we have a back-to-school school section and we also have reporters' and anchor' school photos. -- anchors' school photos. >>> autopsies could be done on victims could be done. >>> and it's a soggy mess in southern california. a lot of rain for riverside county. >>> good morning. right now traffic is a little bit slow in some areas. we'll let you know where it's still slow as you drive onto 880. >>> a lot of gray skies out there. numerous reports of drizzle. san mateo, berkeley, san francisco. will this continue, plus a lot of rain in southern california. take a look at it coming up. ♪ [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be great if all devices had backup power? the chevrolet volt does. it's ingen
olympic swimmer diana -- dana boemer will call for equal access to meal programs in the oakland u fid school district. they want congress to incorporate the regional cost of living to determine the family's eligibility when they apply for free or reduced meals. research shows children who go hungry are more likely to struggle in the classroom and they also have more tardiness and other problems. we have a back-to-school school section and we also have reporters' and anchor' school photos. --...
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. >> let's bring in dana telsy standing by and has more thoughts on this as well. we're just getting you on the phone. you're just hearing this news as we are. having watched what happened at jcpenney, is this a good development? >> the company needs stabilization. the key is getting through this back to school and christmas season in order to reinvigorate traffic, to bring people back in the stores, board room fights don't need to be played out on main driving sales should be the focus. anything that brings calm internally and externally is the right thing to do. >> what do you think about what jcpenney has in stores now. are they ready for the back to school season, will they be ready for the shopping season? >> i was just in chicago doing my shopping tour yesterday and they're ready for back to school, back to school signs are all over, traffic was a little bit better than we have seen there in the past. but the arizona jeans are out. and now it is getting the customers in the door. >> and just in terms of traffic, how does that match up with where jcpenney was
. >> let's bring in dana telsy standing by and has more thoughts on this as well. we're just getting you on the phone. you're just hearing this news as we are. having watched what happened at jcpenney, is this a good development? >> the company needs stabilization. the key is getting through this back to school and christmas season in order to reinvigorate traffic, to bring people back in the stores, board room fights don't need to be played out on main driving sales should be the...
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dana polk is with the presidio trust. came in, the call around 2:00 this morning. >> unfortunately we're having trouble with bob's audio. we will continue following this fire in san francisco with firefighters on scene. the thing is spreading around the cemetery at the presidio. we'll check back in with bob for updates as it continues. >>> in the meantime a statewide amber alert continues this morning. authorities looking for a man accused of kidnapping a girl and her brother near the u.s.-mexico border near san diego county. the children's mother has been found dead inside the suspect's home along with another victim. "today in the bay's" marla tellez along interstate 880 in san jose with an update on this search. good morning. >> good morning. i spoke to an officer with the california highway patrol this morning. he tells me late last night san diego county authorities contacted chp officers in the bay area and said, you know what? we're taking this amber alert statewide. as a result, if you're driving on any enter stat
dana polk is with the presidio trust. came in, the call around 2:00 this morning. >> unfortunately we're having trouble with bob's audio. we will continue following this fire in san francisco with firefighters on scene. the thing is spreading around the cemetery at the presidio. we'll check back in with bob for updates as it continues. >>> in the meantime a statewide amber alert continues this morning. authorities looking for a man accused of kidnapping a girl and her brother...
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. >> we're joined now by cnn chief congressional correspondent dana bash, she is in washington. obviously this move is very heavy with implications because it goes to the heart of the question who was responsible for the chemical weapons attacks. >> that's exactly right. and even more basic is did the chemical weapons attack actually happen? we have that report from the outside government and from groups who were there, but this is very, very important. because part of the problem and the pickle of that president obama and his administration is in right now is that you have finger pointing, you have the syrian rebels saying that the syrian government did it and the syrian government is saying that the rebels did it. so we have the u.n. there trying to figure out what happened. this could make life easier or depending on what they find a lot harder for the president to figure out policy which he has had some criticism about because the president has said he's just been too quiet and to tend tiff about it. >> the idea that chemical weapons were used with death tolls of up to 1,300
. >> we're joined now by cnn chief congressional correspondent dana bash, she is in washington. obviously this move is very heavy with implications because it goes to the heart of the question who was responsible for the chemical weapons attacks. >> that's exactly right. and even more basic is did the chemical weapons attack actually happen? we have that report from the outside government and from groups who were there, but this is very, very important. because part of the problem...
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he is matched in the house of representatives by congressman dana rohrabacher, republican from orange county, california. he gives all of california a bad name. he gives orange county a bad name. there are a lot of great people that live in orange county. i know well. orange county is not the right wing -- you know, stronghold that a lot of people think that it is. but dana rohrabacher -- he was at a town hall meeting yesterday, asked about global warming, there ain't nothing to it, he says. >> just so you know, global warming is a total fraud and it is being designed because what you've got is you've got liberals who get elected at the local level, want the state government to do the work and let them make the decisions. then at the state level, they want the federal government to do it. and at the federal level, they want to create global government to control all of our lives. that's what their game plan is. it is step by step by step, more and bigger control over our lives by higher levels of government. >> bill: that is such horse you know what. it is just like yeah, people who w
he is matched in the house of representatives by congressman dana rohrabacher, republican from orange county, california. he gives all of california a bad name. he gives orange county a bad name. there are a lot of great people that live in orange county. i know well. orange county is not the right wing -- you know, stronghold that a lot of people think that it is. but dana rohrabacher -- he was at a town hall meeting yesterday, asked about global warming, there ain't nothing to it, he says....
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dana howard, the voice of god. thank you, dana howard. we will be hearing from peter lee. herb schwartz, the regional director of the health and services representing the obama administration in our region. bagarcia. to ben honor it is for me here with them because i know of their leadership and their work. of small and founder business majority -- without him it would be impossible to pass the affordable care act act. thank you for your tremendous work on that. [applause] and wendell, my senior health policy advisor resource to all members of congress, house and senate, and to the administration, on health policy. what does wendell think is what we say all the time about this issue. that is what we all find out. thank you, wendell, for being here. [applause] as america's first health inketplace, we take pride that, covered california is leading the way in establishing a bright and healthy future for the golden state by making sure uninsured,s well as californians find plans that --t their needs and their that suit their needs and their pocketbooks. i say this plan is for
dana howard, the voice of god. thank you, dana howard. we will be hearing from peter lee. herb schwartz, the regional director of the health and services representing the obama administration in our region. bagarcia. to ben honor it is for me here with them because i know of their leadership and their work. of small and founder business majority -- without him it would be impossible to pass the affordable care act act. thank you for your tremendous work on that. [applause] and wendell, my...
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. >> on this week's newsmakers, dana rohrabacher. he's chairman of the foreign affairs subcommittee on europe, eurasia, and emerging threats. we discussed a variety of foreign policy topics, including israeli and israeli palestinian peace talks. these makers is sunday on c-span at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. >> we wrote this about a year and a half ago, it's called 10 letters. it's letters that president obama reads and i went back and found 10 of them who had written to the president. it has been a pretty good read. when that is done, then we go on to act of congress and another guy at "the washington post" and back in the 1970s there was a big difference between then and now it is just that these guys have written. collision 2012 is written and there was a similar writing back in the 2008 campaign. all the guys involved, and that is coming out in august. the other one is through the perilous fight, which is by steve bulger, also someone i used to work with closely. we look back at the six weeks during the war of 1812. >> we saw the mo
. >> on this week's newsmakers, dana rohrabacher. he's chairman of the foreign affairs subcommittee on europe, eurasia, and emerging threats. we discussed a variety of foreign policy topics, including israeli and israeli palestinian peace talks. these makers is sunday on c-span at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. >> we wrote this about a year and a half ago, it's called 10 letters. it's letters that president obama reads and i went back and found 10 of them who had written to the president....
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. >> california congressman dana is our guest this week on news makers. he is the chair of the foreign photographers subcommittee. he discussion the u.s.-palestinian peace talks, russian relations and places like yemen and afghanistan. >> some people say well if we cut the military at least we won't have the temptation to go fight as much. and if the japanese want to fight over the isles against the chinese, let them do it. we are better off santiago out, and if we have a smaller military, we will be disinclined to get involved. if you look at historically when we fight and don't, i don't see a correlation of higher defense budgets and greater likelihood of intervening. the world wars began when we were unprepared. if we fast forward to the ragan years, in many years the ragan years, people can correct me if they wish afterwards or whenever, but the ragan years are still seen as the golden years of american defense policy because we billion up the budget and didn't really use the military. support that wonderful? i am not saying it was all ronald reagan's
. >> california congressman dana is our guest this week on news makers. he is the chair of the foreign photographers subcommittee. he discussion the u.s.-palestinian peace talks, russian relations and places like yemen and afghanistan. >> some people say well if we cut the military at least we won't have the temptation to go fight as much. and if the japanese want to fight over the isles against the chinese, let them do it. we are better off santiago out, and if we have a smaller...